User talk:JWSchmidt/Archives/2005 to 2008

Hi,

This Wikicity seems to be fun. I thank you for recieving me here and answering my question. I will need a week or two of pen&paper work bevore i can set up my own story. For now i have expanded on your Experimental project. Your text there is awesome. If you don't like me calling my stuff the second chapter of yours simply move it to something else. Eulalia 16:07, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * It is sad that it has been so quiet in this wiki that I had to try collaborating with Ads by Google! (see also: User talk:Eulalia) JWSchmidt 17:39, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Have you read the stuff at Ad space? I suppose so. So maybe we'll have to delete our "Google ad poetry" and write something that is our own instead. Your idea sounds great. I'd say let's begin. Eulalia 18:31, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Hello, I noticed what you did with the edit conflict in We need a new title. If you don't mind, I'd like to try to merge the two continuations to form a single story. On another note, I think edit conflicts are going to continue to happen, and will probably get more frequent. On Wikipedia you can usually just merge content, but here (since the information is being made up) the two additions will often be irreconcilable. Do you have any ideas for how to deal with edit conflicts in general? Eric119 01:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I doubt if there can be a single system to apply to every case. Sometimes it will be easy to merge, sometimes it may be best to create forks. Wiki is flexible enough to allow both! JWSchmidt 06:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Okay, that works. I think in this case a merge is possible. Eric119 19:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I have been trying to keep a plot discription in the disussion where it is easyer to change the plot in a few sentences then edit large amounts of content Cyber857 02:48, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)
 * When there are multiple authors actively working on (editing) a story, it is probably wise to make an effort to plan the story. However, sometimes it can be fun and constructive to have two people go in different directions. Ultimately it must be up to the tastes of individuals involved to decide how much planning to do. Someone who starts a story or makes major contributions should probably speak up and make their wishes known. If two people do not agree, it is always possible to make a fork in a story and the two authors can go their own way. --JWSchmidt 04:18, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

re: thanks
Thanks for your efforts to send fiction from wikibooks to Novelas. --JWSchmidt 14:58, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! :) It's a fine little story concept, but it sure doesn't make a textbook, so this is the next best bet. Garrett 23:26, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Action
I'm hoping to get some action going with some of the WikiStory:Styles that I've put up. I've started working on a story for the first series, hopefully to inspire some other people to start writing as well. I'm giving you a heads-up, to see if you'd want to join me on this. --diaskeaus

Re: Religion in science fiction
Nope. I vaguely remember hearing about the movie, but the Wikipedia article doesn't really talk about the religious aspect much. Why do you ask? (I'm posting this on both Wikis so neither of us has to keep checking the other's site between replies.) --Schrei 20:41, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome
Well yeah, that sort of says it. It's quite small here isn't it?

Re: Welcome
Thanks! - though I've been here before - I was quite interested for a while in setting up a script-writing wiki and Angela pointed me here (well, specifically here). I tried to get my group of the time (who I was making an educational video with) to use wiki for brainstorming, managing and writing a script/outline for filming here, but it didn't really catch on. More recently, and in the wake of Wikimania, I've thought about reviving it as a part of the semi-buzz around the "Wikimentary". Don't know how active I'll be around here though - we'll see... Cormaggio 00:56, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Re: welcome
Thanks a lot for your welcome and for the pic of Rosario!!! I am already a member of Wikipedia but this may be where I spend the bulk of my time for the foreseeable future.

Whoo hoo! --Micmac99 16:56, 4 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Dépannage
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Nuvola_apps_kcontrol.png
 * Pourriez-vous réparer le formulaire:

FORMULAIRE

Sur la page:

http://fr.fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Upload


 * Merci d'avance.

--Wikisoft* @@@-fr 14:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I left a note about this at the central wikia. --JWSchmidt 04:17, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

process
You posted: "save the exposition for Mulder and Skully" <-- I understand that you requested discussion before actually making a story and I am not trying to even suggest that the story include depictions of any events in 1968. My problem is that it is all too easy for me to outline a story and then discover that the outline does not really lead to a sensible story. The way my brain works, it is a big help to actually try to draft a "bare-bones" yet coherent version of the story in order to sort out all of the details of a sequence of events. Only by thinking my way through the telling of a story do I notice many of the details that are required to create a realistic plot. I admit that I am often more concerned with finding a coherent story than making a readable or stylish story. I think the power of constructing fiction in a wiki user environment is that there should be no problem from first producing crude plot outlines and then crafting them into the final form of a story. Collaboration in a wiki environment can be tricky. I can see how my unconventional quirks might irritate other people. If you are tired of dealing with my quirks, just ask me to leave you alone. --JWSchmidt 15:17, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I do not understand. Given all of the above, is not just such rough draft trial and error solicitation for exactly such plotting critique as against which you now bristle so?

Aaron Agassi -- FoolQuest.com

To bristle or not to bristle...
You posted: "you now bristle so" <-- I'm sorry if I seemed to bristle. One of the problems of online communities that lack rich channels of communication is that one's true feelings sometimes do not shine through the text. --JWSchmidt 23:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Likewise. Are we cool, then?

Aaron Agassi -- FoolQuest.com

Wiki in love
Hey, I've just added to Wiki in love - any thoughts? Corrections? additions? - AmishThrasher 13:04, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * It would have to be a separate story, as it wouldn't fit into the continuity of Wiki in love. But I like the concept. I'll start one off - along the lines of what you suggested - at Conformity (feel free to rename it if you think the name sucks), feel free to add to it. - AmishThrasher 01:36, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've put up a backstory at Conformity. It's also a backstory that allows other stories, in turn, to be written. Tell me what you think? Also, I'm interested to see where you go with it! - AmishThrasher 03:26, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

GNUheroes
I'm just wondering if you've had a chance to check out the GNUheroes universe, and if so, if you're interesting in contributing to The Superhero Showdown, or GNUheroes are Born? - AmishThrasher 11:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I made major changes to the community portal, by replacing with a portal page. Tell me what you think of it. If you don't like it, I'll revert it. --Yunzhong Hou 20:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about not answering the question. Judging by the apparently obvious answer, I thought it was rhetorical. --Yunzhong Hou 23:26, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, I've put descriptions on the images I've uploaded... You tire me. --Yunzhong Hou 23:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

About the edit summary
Oh okay. --Yunzhong Hou 21:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I moved the page out of the project namespace so that it would have a link to Novelas at the top (subpaging). Since you don't seem in favor of it, I've decided to revert it. It's now back to where it was, at Novelas:Copyrights. --YZHchat/2000+ edits

May I ask what's the problem with the font? --YZHchat/2000+ edits


 * The substituted font was harder to read. --JWSchmidt 23:45, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Times New Roman is the standard font. It can't be harder to read, or else it wouldn't be the most popular font. (Next reason?) --YZHchat/2000+ edits 01:51, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Times New Roman seems harder because while reading a wiki, my mind has set itself to pick up on the sans serif default.Serprex 01:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh geesh. Well at least let me keep my Mage story in that font, okay? And someone might want to revert those font changes. --YZHchat/2000+ edits 02:12, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Why Novel/Short Story Status Must Be Determined By Current Length
A brief check on the history for Nails shows that the last content contribution was April 3, 2005 - over a year and a half ago. If a work is "under construction", it is only because the author(s) never returned to remove the label "under construction". Take a look around - aside from those that are completed, almost all of the stories we have are "under construction" yet have seen no content contribution for months if not years.

If we were to hold to your statement that a short story "under construction" is a novel, then every incomplete piece would be a novel, because every incomplete piece has the potential to become a novel. If what determines short-story/novel status is the intention of the author, then a story that isn't even started would also be a novel, while a story initially intended to be a short story which another writer picks up and expands to novel-size would still be a short story. Then we could might as well throw out the different types.

What about the amount of effort used, and the honor given to those authors who actually finish their piece? It would all evaporate with your claim.

Hopefully you will see why we have to use the amount of text (article size) to determine status as novel/novella/short-story/very-short-story.

If, however, you want to have Nails actually be a novel/novella, you should actively contribute material to it. You're the second author for it, and the first author is on Indefinite WikiBreak. Why not either work on it a lot more in the next few days until it's complete, or remove the "under construction" tag?

--YZHchat/2000+ edits

True, they may not be just a short story and could in fact be a novel one day. But how else are we going to classify them? Doing it by text file (ie. 80+kb, 30+kb, etc.) on the sidebar will be unpleasant and seem too technical, and it's unfair to those who have finished their work. Those articles which don't have much progress for months aren't going to suddenly be expanded by a returned author. That hasn't happened very often. --YZHchat/2000+ edits

Please work on your Nails story
You haven't made significant content additions to Nails for quite a while. As you claim that it's still going to expand, please follow through on that promise and add more content to that story. --YZHchat/2000+ edits 01:50, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Yunzhong is simply converting to a more organized system,lashing out would be best avoided.In the case that he is actually editing the content,then your anger is called for.I'm sure X7 can be changed to some sort of an agreement on how to divide it.Serprex 19:28, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to leave it to Yunzhong to undo those things,best not get into that kerfuffle.Why don't you apply for adminship?Serprex 14:29, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Are you the author of VirileMail?
If you are the author of VirileMail, congratulations. I have read some of it and a friend read it all, though she is waiting the story to be completed. If you wrote that, complete it, please, it is a very nice and well written story. It deserves to be a Featured Fiction! 16:46, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Of course you can
I suggest that if you don't like the changes made by some user, just paste it into another version, something like VirileMail Alternate and follow with your story own ideas. They did it on 2084, they have two versions, the sad and happy ending, by different authors. If you were referring to me as a collaborator, I would like to do it. But, I would have to know the whole plot you have in mind, to collaborate and don't damage the story. I will read it and if you want, I will insert some paragraphs for you to know my style and for you to decide if you agree with me... Or you can write it alone, I think you can. 02:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I have an idea for an explanation of how the nanobots got to Earth. As they are so small, they came through a wormhole they opened. It is better than interestellar travel. 04:02, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Mental problems
I suggest that as Joe keeps going against the AIs, he gets mentally ill. Check VirileMail:meta for my full post about this. 18:10, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Question: did you work on a software project or the like? Your knowledge seems to me to be of first-hand experience.

20:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, by seeing the old posts I felt bad for never having met you. True, you wrote a Doctor Who/X Files crossover fanfiction. But anyone that actually tries to organize collaborative works before starting can't be that bad. A pity I wasn't here at the time, now I don't know what I can do to help. Still, good luck finishing VirileMail (or finding a title for it, for that matter). --Nonimportant 01:26, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, that was a typo, my mind was elsewhere. Star Trek/X files fanfiction. With that I can't help, but I'll see if I can help with VirileMail, the premise is extremely interesting, but the story already went on for so long I fear I might not get the gist of it. I'll try, though. --Nonimportant 02:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Check my alternate version
Check VirileMail/6-2, my experiment at writing VirileMail style. It starts to implement point 3 (devices). 03:12, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I saw your comments about chat
There is one chat here. Click Manage Widgets in the MORE click up-right. Then go to the last page on the right and Click on the "+" to add the Shout box. I will be there waiting if you wish to talk about VirileMail. I saw your corrections to my new few paragraphs, they are very fine. As I am not a native English speaker, my sentences are simple sometimes... 15:46, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I am on the chat now. 18:02, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Sequel to the End of the Eternity
Your plot is very interesting. It fits exactly on Asimov's universe and in the End of the Eternity. Start writing it yourself alone, you have a very good idea to start with. By the way, I want to try to write a story in collaboration... Maybe that or another one, but from scratch. 17:04, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Maybe not
It is interesting that the aliens try to close Eternity after they are done. But, time must work in a similar way to chaos theory, and they cannot anticipate all possible outcomes with only few initial conditions. So I think they can imagine that they can but forbidding such a thing would be impossible. Not even the laws of the universe itself prevent discovering it, an alien race would not be able to do so either. Chaos theory and uncertainty principle would not let them "simulate" or see the future consequences. I have always thought that time travel to the future is not possible, or at least to self's future. 23:27, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Name of the new story
It should be called The Restart of Eternity, because it is after the end, a restart based on the Moon portal. 15:49, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Galaxia
I had forgotten about Galaxia. It is nice that you put that into the story. Asimov never went on with that topic, he only talked about Gaia. It could be a good weapon agains the telepathy of the Huaoshy.

And about VirileMail, I have the idea that the nanobots affect the right-brain, and as Joe is right-handed, it is his less developed hemisphere. So, the hemisphere he can control fully is the left one and he tries to rationalize, that is, try to explain all his behavior with language. The nanobots forbid some way of corpus callosum communication, so he cannot be as paranoid as he is when his corpus is functioning the right way. The behavior itself is caused by his right-brain, the mute hemisphere. That is why he cannot explain it with words, and that is the reason for all people in the project to try to explain things with language. As you may know, left-brain is logical, verbal, analytical, that is why Joe tries to rationalize everything. When he is in control by the nanobots, he is only using this hemisphere, but not all the time. He can sometimes overcome the influences and act as a full human being. Maybe this is never explained in the story, but Joe, at the end, can find out something about this. Or the psychiatrist can order an EEG and find out that his right hemisphere seems to have an anomalous functioning (because it is controlled by nanobots). For Geisler interview, I have no clue, I have already written it, but it is very short. The time enough for the nanobots to exchange information by shaking hands. See you on IRC.

19:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Vote
Hi, please don't vote for feature fiction. Thanks. 13:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, again about VirileMail, I didn't quite get why everyone undereacted about the EGGPLANT THAT FELL FROM THE SKIES MAKING HOLES THROUGH VARIOUS FLOORS OF A BUILDING. I mean, the least they could do would be trying to figure out what actually made those holes, since an eggplant is too ridiculous, right? Or is everyone already brain-snatched by that point? --Nonimportant 21:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I am mad at the titles!
Check VirileMail/2008 and find out why. 16:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Madness
Cool. And that is a difficult problem for an AI. He does not know when to stop, like a true Turing machine never getting to the stop state! If it is hard for us, it is hard for him. 22:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Ya, that was awhile ago. Nonimportant and I later solved the issue of short works by creating I hasm bucket o spamUser:Serprex 23:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Would you mind if I moved Amoebas to IHBOS, or do you plan to expand it?User:Serprex 00:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Kalid
Thanks for the fixes in The search for Kalid/1. They are very good. Davichito 15:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

JWS, Yunz said he merged SoF5 to SoF4. Read the last paragraph of SoF4 and you'll have SoF5. Also, stop lecturing me whenever you want something restored. When was the last time I deleted something that wasn't vandalism or user request? I'm always open to restoring pages upon requestUser:Serprex 19:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiStyle
Hi JWSchmidt, I've undeleted the five pages you requested. Please do us a favor and consolidate them into a single page Help: Wikistory for easier viewing and comparison between the styles.

As for the story you want to "collab", this isn't my first time telling you that the page has no content in it, so there's no point in undeleting it.

02:48, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

As you requested, I've restored Story Ideas.


 * "The problem is that neither of you know how to run a wiki."

This is laughable. How many edits do you have? 2k+. How many does Serprex have? 4k+. How many edits do I have? 15k+. We're both senior to you. You go tell everyone else that you know how to run this wiki better than we do. I didn't want to bring this out, but you made me.

-A comment: Making 1Mb+ edits means nothing. He was speaking of quality. For instance, do you think that Deep vortex is our best story, only because it is bigger. Hitler commited 6 million mistakes, and that does not imply it was good, for instance. Quantity does not mean quality. If you know anything about programming, you should know that the largest code is not the best. Also, a novel is not good because it is big, there are a lots of big mistakes. And, lastly, too much editing does not mean quality or good job. For instance, YZH, how much of your edits are just deleting or revertions? That should count backwards, negative points to your administrations skills... Overall, when you have to restore them because you were wrong when you deleted them. I mean, YZH, if anyone asks you to restore a delete you made, that means you did not make a good job, because that way you are acting AGAINST the community. And that is not the job of a bureaucrat, no matter how many gigabytes of edits you have. That is not impressive at all. And this is no personal harassment, it is just a comparison. David 21:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * "You do not respect the wishes of people who make and use the pages you delete."

There's a lot of people whose wishes I don't respect. Like al-Qaeda, and Communism, and the Flat-Earth Society. Who says I have to respect the wishes of people?

You have to respect the wishes of Fiction Wikia users. You cannot be a tyrant and do your will against all of us. You are JUST a user with privileges, not a king. Like Jmoysae, see him, for instance, nobody has ever fought against him for his policy. Because he did and is doing his job. Nobody has to claim him anything. So, think about it, YZH, don't you think that the fact that JWSchmidt and I have to continously argue with you, has something to do with YOU... Of course, we have to do too, but the problem for this wikia is mainly you, if you have not noticed it yet. And don't dare ban me for this, because that would be silly, that would be tyranny. David 21:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * "The Price of Freedom has been and continues to be in use at Science Fiction, as I have already explained."

Patently false. If it's in use there would be contributions by now. You have no idea what's going on.


 * "You should quickly undelete any non-vandalism page when someone tells you that they are using the page."

No one is using the page. It's been unused for fifteen months now, ever noticed that? '''The only content there is a cover template! There's not a single word of story body present!!!'''


 * "If you are too lazy to do your job then make me a sysop here and I will do it myself."

Don't tell me what I should do. And no thanks. You argue with me, you won't get any favors from me.14:07, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Cool. So we can never be sysops only because the king does not like us. That is a good comment, good for pasting in Central Wikia, an example of an unfair bureaucrat. You have earned good points today, YZH. David 21:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Simple enough task, you seemed to care about it so I figured I'd end all the bickering. Always nice to when we get people who left long ago to check the place out again tooUser:Serprex 15:20, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Now you can send me email...
In reply to your comment, I notify you I've finally confirmed my email address (I though it was already confirmed, since I was receiving email updates) and granted permission for everybody to spam my account.--Jmoysae 07:54, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

It's nice to know that something productive is coming out of The Price of Freedom. I was going to undelete it but then lost my internet connection for several days. Good luck with the collab! 13:16, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Woa! The king is trying to be polite... hehe. How absurd! David 17:58, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Image on Awakening
Dude, I gotta say, that really impressed me. I never thought anyone would do something like that, I love it. Dan Genesis 23:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

virile mail
Can I contribute? --Huge_bob 09:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Check out blind world please. --Huge_bob 18:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Lets continue blind world sometime --User:Huge_bob/sig2 11:31, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

sysop
Why did not Angela sysop you on December 2006 but to User:Yunzhong_Hou ? Do you know?Dionysos 14:43, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Did Angela really explain what ever occured... he got adminship less a week after coming to this place! She did not consult you... did she?

To be able to look at his talk page archives, I have to use webarchive.org, because he deleted his previous talk pages! Yet, I was unable to get archives 2, and 3

He also had problems with many users, I think he must be desysoped to prevent further troubles, after all, he does not seem to be active any longer.

I think a new bureaucrat must be chosen by the community, and this one must not be imposed by wikia staff. I think he should be you, you were basically the starter of this wiki!Dionysos 14:54, 3 October 2008 (UTC)