User talk:Proxima Centauri/Archive 1

00:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

How do I archive a story
How do I archive a story? Proxima Centauri 20:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

You go to Archives, find the right genre, and create a "snippet" of your own based off the examples. 14:04, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've archived it. Proxima Centauri 12:12, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Where it is

Vote
Hi, please vote for feature fiction. Thanks. 13:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Greetings Proxima,

You don't need to get my permission for your edits to Hunt for a Demon. It isn't my story. I posted it here after I got permission to do so from Basilicus. I think you're doing fine.

Cheers, 19:53, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

From what I saw I didn't see a story, as my summary stated. If you like you can recreate it as a story, but Wikipedia articles should be left for WikipediaUser:Serprex 14:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi PC, try using shorter titles to make the pages more accessible to everyone. Abcxyzzzz 18:40, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Wait a second, what did I do?User:Serprex 19:34, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

You didn't do anything wrong, Serprex. You lengthened titles and got them to fit better with the Novelas style. Now someone else thinks the titles should be shorter. I'm in the middle. Whatever I do someone will be against me. None of us has done anything wrong. It's just one of those things. Proxima Centauri 13:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

If you want to shorten the article titles of your work, just do it or tell someone else that you want it changed. Abcxyzzzz 01:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Semprex lengthened the title. I don't mind the long titles.  I don't want to be blamed either. Proxima Centauri 07:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I see you renamed the files. I personally do not mind but I think the title is so long. We can remove the "by x and y" part, I guess. Our nicks are also on the main page: The Lord of the Wikis. The idea of splitting them is good. The problem is how long they are. The policy in here is to append /1, /2, etc. We can put the title on the links, rather than the name of the page. Initially, I thought you wanted to make a fork, that is, alternate chapters. But it seems not. So, tell me what you think. --David 23:14, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Codependence
Good idea! I think I can write about that topic, it is interesting and is related to Mark's addiction.

>An example would be a wife making excuses for her husband's excessive drinking and perhaps defending him by calling in sick for him when he is hung over

That is what we need. I was thinking of introducing a girlfriend for Mark but I could not know how to make it. Now, we know how she will be. She will not complain too much for Mark's computer addiction so, he cannot be cured unless he commits to controlling himself. I was stuck since I was only thinking about wikis, but the general picture of computer addiction and codependence helps finish the story. If you plan them to have children, then this could be more than a short story. I am glad to know that. About the titles, I think they are fine; it is just a naming convention Fiction wikia created. It's not important, we may change it when we see fit. And the answer is yes, I think I can write about that, maybe after I do more research about the topic.

Another thing: Mark has not much experience with girls, so he will become very emotionally attached to her. Let's imagine he has only had unrequited love experiences and that new burst of love and caring will confuse him and he will fall in love with her, almost instantly. As he is obsessive with computers, he will be obsessive with love... Besides, Angie will have to treat him like a teenager sometimes. --David 13:23, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

I found this: http://knol.google.com/k/sam-vaknin/inverted-narcissist/2ji9lwjy5dg4e/10#, related to codependence (Angie), narcissism (Mark) in the Lord of the Wikis. --David 18:50, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Cthulhu
Cthulhu....if I recall correctly, all I did for "Chandler’s Bookstore" was make a category for a bunch of related pages. I think you should feel free to take the story in any direction you like. I just saw this footnote. I've thought about those questions for a long time....the answers I came up with are the basis of what I call the "Exodemic Universe". --JWSchmidt 01:07, 24 February 2009 (UTC) I don't want to take the story in any direction. I'm busy with The Aliens of the Flaming Red Sun and if I take on too much I'll get behind there. What I wanted was a frightening link for The Aliens of the Flaming Red Sun/3 It's not altogether nice see, "Places of entertainment started showing old 20th Century films about alien attacks and alien domination. Audiences flocked there due to fascination with the horrible. Other people could not easily bring themselves to walk past a place where such a film was shown. A few people got a bit obsessive about tentacled Cthulhu and imagined the aliens much bigger than they really were. There were many sightings of The Yellow Sign. from there".

If anyone lese wants to take Cthulhu in any direction that doesn't affect my story.

I like the idea of an exodemic universe because the real world may be like that. I'll take a look when I've got time. Proxima Centauri 09:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I reply because I guess YZH is not active since months. Adminship takes the same as in every wiki, acting by consensus to delete, revert, block, protect pages. If you want to be an admin, nominate yourself, like we did before. Users will discuss, some may ask you questions and we will decide by voting. --David - talk 18:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi
Hey, I noticed that you wrote to David and said that you are a girl! So am I! Maybe we should write a story together sometime. (I won't be offended it you don't want to)--God&#39;sGirl94 17:49, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, I don't really know off hand what skyscrapers are like because I live in the country part of Indiana. Maybe we should write a story that consists of letters between two girls, one American and one British. Could that work?--God&#39;sGirl94 20:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia has an article about Pen friends. We could collaborate I haven't any ideas yet but that might change. Proxima Centauri 21:01, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

That's fine. I'm in no hurry, but I just want to get to know others here to see what they like. We can do that another time, whenever we get an idea! :-)--God&#39;sGirl94 14:52, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Good. Proxima Centauri 16:14, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't have a clue about people living in skycrappers. But I do remember that Asimov lived in 33rd floor, so maybe it's common in US. And a question, I am puzzled. You said "I am a little girl star". I still do not know if that is metaphorical or if you are indeed a woman. --David - talk 16:35, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not a star but I am a woman. Either sex can write about hermaphrodites. Proxima Centauri 16:55, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

For your information, I'm trying to find David in order to APOLOGIZE!!!!!! That's the only decent thing for me to do after what I said and how I acted. That's all. And if he doesn't want to accept my apology, then that's his problem! I'll apologize and then stay out of his hair. He can talk to me if he wants. I won't sleep if I can't let him know how sorry I am.--God&#39;sGirl94 15:08, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Leave David alone. The more you go after him the more you upset him. Proxima Centauri 15:11, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

What is wrong with apologizing?! I know that it was wrong of me to type like I did on that forum. I want to apologize and set things right!!--God&#39;sGirl94 15:21, 4 March 2009 (UTC)'''
 * Can everyone please stop using BOLD PRINT and start acting civilized. Really, this is going to lead to more bad things if this continues. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 16:29, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Freethinkers follow the scientific method. It seems David was considering leaving before the latest trouble. God’s Girl may not have been at fault. Proxima Centauri 10:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Right, I never mentioned my reasons for leaving this wiki and would not have explained to Godsgirl back thenbecause I don't like to talk to people who act in a pushy way. She could have been at fault, from some point of view, for what she did afterward, being so pushy and filling the wiki with apologizes and the mentioning of my name. It's her way so it has nothing to do with fault. I did not reply to her then because I did not want to fill the entire wikia with an endless discussion (off topic also). I think we "signed peace" between godsgirl and me, now that time passed and we both could calm down. I thank you for having "backed me up" and making her notice she needed to calm down and stop mentioning my name all around. I think you were the one who could help the situation calm down. Thanks. --Acey &bull; gossip. 17:29, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

A day in the life
You read my mind. I was wondering if Sophie or Jessica should abandon the main character. I assume you read the whole page, what do you think about it?--Micaelus 20:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

It's the type of story that men like and women dislike. The central character is selfish. I wrote a bit but it's more your scene than mine. Proxima Centauri 20:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Of course. So you're a woman. Well, Lucy scene will be different... and bitter. The selfish character will get what he deserves. I wonder if a woman would like the contrary scene, two men and one woman. Maybe very few of them, as women are not sexually obsessed as most men. --Micaelus 20:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Good! The bad character gets what he deserves. I've glanced at a different bit of the story and I can see that character is not the sort people respect. Have you read The Aliens of the Flaming Red Sun? The Aliens of the Flaming Red Sun/20 Aunt Violet warns about Marriage. is about a woman a hermaphrodite who's more female than male. Her late husband exploited her. Proxima Centauri 20:32, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

20 chapters? You are such a prolific writer! I will read that chapter then. Well, is the character that bad? He gets what he deserves for being so excessive and thinking that love can be bought. The solution to his problems are not there. Well, when I finish the story I would like your opinions on the main character and his change at the end. --Micaelus 20:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

"Old Groovy Tentacles just wanted me for sex and nothing else. ". It is something I explored in my story. People who just use other people for selfish pleasure. It is some kind of vampirism, sucking other people energy, mind and body just for the pleasure of oneself.

I finished the story. I hope you like it, at least the ending. --Micaelus 21:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

That would be bad sex. The story is certainly interesting. Try The Lord of the Wikis/4 and The Lord of the Wikis/5 for how a woman sees sex. Proxima Centauri 21:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Interesting. It's more how they see a beginning relationship (sex was not explicit as in my case). You are right, women tend to find a friend, someone to whom they can really love. Well, I wonder... if you could write a complete scene of it. Just to really know how women see sex. Well, it's just a suggestion, don't think I am obsessed with that topic. It is something I want to understand from other points of view. Anyway, those parts of stories are just for the senses, not the mind itself. Something I cannot understand about women is why they try to flee first time, as Angie tries. Maybe they are not impulsive as men for genetic reasons... or more due to hormones. It is very nice for me to know female writers. Nice to meet you. --Micaelus 22:02, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Collaboration
I hope to see you around collaborating in User:*Acey*/Collaborations. We will write stories in there between more than 2 users, I hope. It's an experiment we will create. I like your style of writing so you might join. Just create a story and link it there or join the existing stories and we will have fun. --Acey &bull; gossip. 19:47, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

We'll see about collaboration. At the moment I'm not keen on writing anything more explicit than what I'm writing now. Proxima Centauri 19:51, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

My beloved girlfriend
I enjoyed your additions. It adds skeptical point of views, which George might have. He has only gone to church to seek help but in his inside he does not believe that much. You are right, if we think about Purgatory or Hell, atheism could be a relief. But believing in reincarnation is another way to feel fine about life after death... --Acey &bull; gossip. 21:18, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Those who believe in reincarnation believe that if we do wrong we can come back as something repellent like a slug. If we are good we come back as something very nice. That may or may not be a comfort. Proxima Centauri 21:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

It might be a comfort because the torment is not eternal as Hell. The problem with atheism is it does not talk about life after death. --Acey &bull; gossip. 02:53, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

If you feel like it, we may talk in http://java.freenode.net/index.php?channel=wikia-fiction. The freenode's channel for this wikia; we use it for writing in collaboration. I hope to hear from you soon, in there... --Acey &bull; gossip. 23:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

OK. Talk pages are more "brainy" than IRC, anyway. --Acey &bull; gossip. 17:50, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

The Lord of the Wikis
I have some comments about the meta you put in there. I think that he must not work for the World of Wikis immediately. We can say that they marry, Angie discovers it's a lie that he is working there and she finally ends up working and Mark dozing at home. This will make Mark feel wrong but his addiction will not let him go out and search for a job. Let's say he failed to be allowed to work at the World of Wikis because he is a bad wiki user; I mean, engaging in too many edit wars, reverting, deleting and blocking without consensus, etc. Even having a history of sock-puppetry... So, they will never give him the job. He would only get a job years after that, when dad's money stop coming. As Angie is codependent, she does not even want him to work or something. She over protects him as if he were his son or sort of. It is the key in here, she will prevent him for finding a cure for his OCD or whatever problem he has, unconsciously.

Second, if he works for the World of Wikis, his problem would not be addiction anymore. It would be more like being workaholic, which is a different thing. I mean, the idea, as I see it, is that Mark does not like to work; he just likes wikis. It's compulsory and has nothing to do with being excellent at job. It is an activity he could have found to be interesting... if it becomes a job, he would stop being addictive. Why? Because he does it for money, so it is not compulsory now, the order to work in wikis comes from outside, not from the inside. He uses wikis to escape the world... like alcohol. I see Mark as having existential problems (as is mentioned somewhere in the story) so his addiction to wikis would go if he works on it. When he does wikis, he feels guilty all the time and it becomes a compulsion, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder; he wants to quit but is unable to do it. If he works in wikis he will not feel guilty. He will feel happy with himself, because, even if excessive, he is working, making something that has a meaning in life. He does not find meaning in life or in wikis, but it is the only thing he can do to avoid boredom.

It's my suggestion for plausibility, the rest is perfect for me. I want to know your opinion on that. --Acey &bull; gossip. 18:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm new to collaborative fiction but it should involve give and take. I'm British and it's late in the evening here. I'll think things over and get back to you later. Proxima Centauri 21:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

OK. --Acey &bull; gossip. 22:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I hope I have not scared you way with my comments about the Lord of the wikis. In case I have not mentioned it, I am the same one who created the story; I lost my old account so now I use this one and I want to continue the collaboration in that story. It's why my paragraphs and opinions were so lengthy about Mark getting a job; I was thinking about them since you first wrote your ideas for continuing the story, after Angie appeared. I could not continue with my own fork so I think it is better for us to collaborate in Angie and Mark parts. The issue to discuss now is if he will get a work for the World of Wikis or not. --Acey &bull; gossip. 17:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

You didn't scare me away. I was writing about topics like the plight of real non-fictional slaves in the 21st Century. Most of the time I'm a weak atheist or agnostic. Sometimes I ask myself questions like, “Just suppose that reincarnation is real? Just suppose that I have the karma that could lead me to be reborn a slave?” Ahh! If that happens then how much help I get will depend on how much I do for slaves now when I’m free.

I’ve thought of writing it so Angie goes back to the Employment Bureau and tries for a job well below what she had before. She does this partly because she doesn’t want Mark to find out that she’s unemployed, after all she imagines he’s got such a difficult job. She gets an ordinary office job that leaves her unchallenged. Mark doesn’t get the job at World of Wikis but Angie doesn’t know that. Angie helps Mark with World of Wikis. Those who refused him the job there are impressed with how Mark’s work improved and don’t know Angie is helping. Mark gets an email offering him the job after all. Proxima Centauri 18:46, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

At the moment I'm focused on slaves. The Aliens of the Flaming Red Sun includes a fictional non-human slave who is beginning to want freedom but believes it's his/her duty to serve his/her owner. I feel I can write that well at the moment. Proxima Centauri 19:37, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Very interesting. So you are a weak agnostic, nice. Extremes are always troublesome and may lead to self delusions since the world is not that way. Although I try to apply the scientific method to my reasoning, I write about telepathy or precognition topics, as I do in The search for Kalid, for instance. We can never model reality as something objective... humans will always have a bias and will not know how ultimate reality is, since we are trapped by it. Only an external observer (outside the universe if there is something or someone outside) could have that privileged view. I am fine with those additions to the job, Mark will act as if he were working and Angie will help her. So, when she finally learns he is not working there... the first discussion. But maybe the job offer gets first. During that time, we can have enough time to be able to portrair Mark's addiction fully. He will need to do what users sometimes do on wikis... engage in endless discussions. Maybe they will not notice since he uses proxies and sock puppets for those discussions, not even Angie knows his dark side on wikis. It's what I plan to write these days. To show Mark's dark and addictive side from a new point of view. --Acey &bull; gossip. 21:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Some proxies are range blocked on some wikis of Wikia. I know Liberapedia blocked some because I'm a sysop there. Other proxies work, I’ve used one on Liberapedia. I edited responsibly with the proxy, I just wanted to know what proxies can and can’t do. When the administrators at Liberapedia discussed blocking proxies I said there is a case for allowing them so that users from countries with oppressive governments can edit Liberapedia and cover their tracks. Other administrators wanted to block them anyway and I didn’t want to damage Liberapedia with a Wheel war so I left it at that. In any case police in oppressive countries can trace a user even with a proxy.

If Mark uses proxies things will be a bit unpredictable for him. Sometimes proxies will work and other times they won’t. I don’t know if any proxies are blocked throughout Wikia. They may be. World of Wikis doesn’t have to be the same as Wikia. Background information on proxies. Proxima Centauri 09:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Not exactly proxies but something harder to trace like ssh tunneling. They are used in wikiversity by banned users and they seem to work. I would not explain the technical aspect of them in the story since it's not something to promote. --Acey &bull; gossip. 13:29, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Can you tell me how to use them on Conservapedia? Proxima Centauri 13:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Well. I am not an expert. You need linux on both machines and have an account to log from it. In computer A (the one you are using) you need to open a terminal and use ssh command and some parameters to log in at computer B. I have no clue about computer B, since I only used it with a friend (he was the expert), he was the one who knew all about it. But... why would you need it for? Isn't it polite to respect bans? I think it's like entering through a window in a house I am not wanted... I would not do that in real life... so why to make it in virtual life? --Acey &bull; gossip. 18:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

How near are we to machines that mimic telepathy? Proxima Centauri 08:56, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I am reading your story. It's very nice and builds much intrigue. The parts about the "punishment" to that hacker alien are quite funny. Good work! --Acey &bull; gossip. 18:41, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Um....
Hey. Do you think that we could be friends again? --User:God’sGirl94 God’sGirl94 ]] Sign my guestbook 19:33, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

If you stop trying to turn us into a Bible Belt website we can get on alongside each other. Proxima Centauri 19:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I will do my best. However, whenever I think that something is wrong, I go WAY overboard trying to fix it. I want to pretend like this never happened.--God&#39;sGirl94 19:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

We can't pretend it never happened. I will always know that you are likely to try and fix what I write. You have to understand that American Bible Belt values are not the same as values in the Rest of the United States/North America or in the rest of the world. Proxima Centauri 08:17, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

>I go WAY overboard trying to fix it

Let me tell you that was your mistake, to try to fix things. When you started apologizing, I, Davichito, thought it was feeding the fire. The best in such situations is to remain silent, as I did and everything went fine, imho. As I have said before, sometimes the best way to fix something is a lack of action. It's wiser, I guess. --Acey &bull; gossip. 13:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I am helping myself. I was Davichito, but I am using a new account. I thought I had mentioned it before... maybe I forgot. --Acey &bull; gossip. 16:08, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I had said that, see:

>...In case I have not mentioned it, I am the same one who created the story; I lost my old account so now I use this one and I want to continue the collaboration in that story. --Acey &bull; gossip. 16:10, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, I have NO idea what Bible Belt is.--God&#39;sGirl94 16:22, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

The Bible Belt Proxima Centauri 07:44, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh. Well, I'm not a member of that.--God&#39;sGirl94 14:21, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

new collaboration project
I just wanted to make sure you are aware of Wiki fiction stew. If you have time, please join in. --JWSchmidt 04:07, 8 April 2009 (UTC)